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14 June 2008 @ 08:05 pm
a quick moment and two thoughts  
As we rode in the car, talking about various things, I said to Ali:

me: What are you saying? I'm not a bad person. It's not like I enjoy the idea of staking the bodies of my enemies on a forest of poles leading up to the house! No, not me, that's just not me at all.

Ali: Of course it isn't.

me: I think I'm just as glad that the girls aren't having any more kids, though. I don't think my suggestion to name a boy "Vlad Tepes" would go over very well.

Ali: No, not really.

me: Besides, with my luck, the kid would end up an asthmatic. Have to call him "Vlad the Inhaler."

It's rare I catch Ali completely by surprise. I must remember these moments, darn it.


For those waiting for the Iron Man movie to hit DVD or who are fans of comic book animation, I'd like to recommend avoiding animated Marvel Comics films in their entirety. The Invincible Iron Man direct-to-DVD movie sucked about as badly as the Doctor Strange one they released a few months later. Seriously, wait for the live action film. Robert Downey, Jr. is Anthony "Tony" Stark.

Related to this, I want to say this to all artists who tell stories in a visual medium, be they animators, comic artists, illustrators, what have you. If your medium or intended audience does not allow you to show a character in the nude, then do not set a scene where you have stripped that character of clothing. Showing a character in the shower or chained down in a lightless prison cell is one thing, but a well-lit action scene where you have to keep arranging "convenient" naughty part coverage? Just leave clothing scraps or something, dammit. Swirling dust, steam or convenient shadows just make me roll my eyes.
Current Mood: amusedamused
Ace Lightning: williacelightning on June 15th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)
oh, you saw Beowulf too ;-)
(the scene where Beowulf is fighting naked, doing all sorts of gymnastic leaps around the room... and somehow there's always somebody's elbow, or a roof beam, or other bits of scenery, in the line of sight to the naughty bits...)

oh, and i know someone who had an old, old Chevy they called Vlad the Impala.

Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 15th, 2008 02:39 am (UTC)
I did see Beowulf, and it is one of the examples of which I was thinking, yes.
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on June 15th, 2008 03:27 am (UTC)
I got the impression, perhaps wrongly, that the Beowulf animators were playing it as an in-joke.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 15th, 2008 03:50 am (UTC)
I suppose they probably were; it was blatant enough at times to be so. The source materials practically required Beowulf to be nude in that scene, but the strictures of cinema wouldn't allow it. It wasn't done as parody, so it grated.
Ace Lightning: wtf-01acelightning on June 15th, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
they did pretty much the same thing to Angelina Jolie, having the liquid-gold effect just conceal nipples and genitalia. and in retrospect, i don't recall Grendel - always referred to as "he" - having any genitalia or nipples, although he was also naked. (i'll let them off about the dragon - i'm not even going to speculate about dragon bits.)

oh, and there were also a couple of times when drunken Hrothgar's blanket slipped, but never quite all the way off... yeah, it was all a huge inside joke.

Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 15th, 2008 05:09 am (UTC)
I'd rather they have simply shown the nudity. Friggin' puritanical country. Frickin' repressive MPAA ratings.
Ace Lightning: nannyacelightning on June 15th, 2008 05:27 am (UTC)
the studios know that they have to keep the nudity and/or blatant sex low enough for a PG-13 rating for a film to make any money... because teenagers make up a huge chunk of the audience, especially for "adventure" films. of course, crude innuendo and gratuitous violence are perfectly okay to show the kiddies... *sigh*

Benjamin Leelbuckley on June 15th, 2008 02:09 am (UTC)
Robert Downey Jr. rocked at that role.

Hugh Jackman keeps getting himself in "magic pants" roles. Like at the end of X-3, where all of Wolverine's clothes are blown off and even a good deal of skin (sorry if this is a spoiler for you), except for his pants between his waist and his mid-thigh. Or in Van Helsing, when he turns into a beast-creature and the size differential rips all his clothes off -- except for the magic pants, which are again artistically shredded at the mid-thigh.

However. I'd much rather we had magic pants than magic props, the ones which amazingly just happen to be at crotch level all the time. Unless you play the scene as a comedy.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 15th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)
RDJ simply was Tony Stark. That movie was perfect.

The Hulk is another example of a wielder of magic pants. It is irksome, but less so than the convenient shadow or smoke phenomena. The joke shot series from the Austin Powers films poked fun quite well at the magic prop nonsense. When it is intentional parody, I am okay with it. When done because you want nudity without actually showing nudity, it just grates on my nerves.
Sorciasorcia on June 15th, 2008 11:42 am (UTC)
What are your thoughts on the new Hulk movie coming out? A lot of my work friends are terrified of it given the horror that was the Hulk movie a few years ago...
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 15th, 2008 04:03 pm (UTC)
Edward Norton as Bruce Banner could be interesting. The screeners I've seen so far give me some hope. I won't be able to tell you until next weekend, though. That's the earliest we'd be able to see it.
Blind Zen Archerbzarcher on June 15th, 2008 02:13 am (UTC)
RDJ -is- Tony Stark. I have no doubt of this.
L A: Down and Seriouslouisadkins on June 15th, 2008 11:25 am (UTC)
I have to agree, both re: Tony Stark and Stupid Magic Props.
I can't wait until the movie is out on DvD.
Steve McKnellydenali1 on June 15th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
Avoid the live action Doctor Strange movie from 1978. It was... yeah... well... just avoid it.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 17th, 2008 12:32 pm (UTC)
Hell, man, I knew that already.
craigers01 on June 17th, 2008 12:30 pm (UTC)
For those asking about the hulk movie, I saw it Saturday and enjoyed the hell out of it. It was a great damned movie. I had a freakin blast watching it. All kinds of little nods to the original series(which I named my first dog after, The incredible little Hulk, I shit you not).

Hell, even Stan Lee's part in this one was a little entertaining.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 17th, 2008 12:31 pm (UTC)
Good. I feel better about this movie, then. Probably go see it this weekend.
craigers01 on June 20th, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
Well, let me know what you thought.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 23rd, 2008 03:04 am (UTC)
Well, we saw it this morning. It was cool. Tons of easter eggs hidden in there. Funny part: favorite moment was the cameo at the end. Just so damned perfect.
craigers01 on June 23rd, 2008 12:39 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I LOVED the easter eggs. Especially the Bill Bixby TV show that he was watching.


I really liked how the begining was done as kind of a horror movie from the troops point of view as they were going into the slurm factory. I've always thought that running into the hulk should scare the crap out of whoever was doing the running into and I never felt that in another movie they way I did at the beginning of this one. I understand from interviews that Ed Norton really immersed himself in the part and I think you can tell that it's true. At some points, I thought he even looked like Bill Bixby which I never felt about Bana. I also liked that they actually gave Lou a few lines. All in all, 400% better than the 2003 debacle.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 23rd, 2008 01:07 pm (UTC)
Lou got screen time, and he was also credited as the voice of the Hulk, which means that the "Hulk smash!" and "Leave me alone!" lines were his voice digitally altered. Too damned cool of them.

Poor Stan Lee. He's always getting abused in these films. In Spider-Man, he had masonry falling from the sky on his head, but he did get to save a little girl. In this one, he gets gamma poisoning from drinking gurana slurm. In the last Hulk movie, he was a security guard. Will the abuse never end? ;)
craigers01 on July 2nd, 2008 05:11 pm (UTC)
I loved the look on Ed Norton's face when Lou stood up. Priceless!