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10 July 2007 @ 03:17 pm
He's got the whole world under his hooves...  
Question: If one were to take gospel songs and filk them into praises of Satan, is that merely parody or does it reach the level of "blasphemy?"

This isn't idle curiosity, but it is spawned by idle hands.
Current Mood: prepatory
Current Music: Weird Al Yankovic - Don't Download This Song
craigers01 on July 10th, 2007 08:19 pm (UTC)
I would have to say yes.

Main Entry: blas·phe·my
Pronunciation: \ˈblas-fə-mē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural blas·phe·mies
Date: 13th century
1 a: the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b: the act of claiming the attributes of deity
2: irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 10th, 2007 08:30 pm (UTC)
Ahh, thank you kindly. :)
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Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 10th, 2007 11:20 pm (UTC)
As a heretic with an eye towards unforgivable sins, the whole idea had me laughing in the first place. Hell, if it was only going to be parody, it wouldn't be worth doing.
Jon Reidcrossfire on July 10th, 2007 09:21 pm (UTC)
It depends on whether or not you can trick others into singing them. ;-)
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 10th, 2007 11:21 pm (UTC)
Ooh, a secondary level. (grin) I wonder how far along the congregation would sing if I went into a white Baptist church and replaced pages in their hymnals with filked hymns to Satan?
Ace Lightning: Priestessacelightning on July 10th, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
i suppose that, by the strict definition, it would be blasphemy, because you're mocking God.

but i don't really believe in blasphemy. if a Deity is going to claim that he's omnipotent, the creator and supervisor of the entire Universe, etc., etc., why should he care if people make fun of him? (yet another bit of evidence that the Abrahamic "God" is psychopathically insecure...)

Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 10th, 2007 11:23 pm (UTC)
Eh. There's blasphemy and there's blasphemy. Mocking the gods has classically been a way to get your ass in trouble, especially in pagan mythologies. Think of the trouble that the various faces of Trickster have been in when mocking the Thrones of each pantheon.
Ace Lightning: pentaacelightning on July 11th, 2007 12:35 am (UTC)
the way i read a lot of Trickster stories, making fun of the boss god isn't what gets him into trouble; he's either playing practical jokes on the gods (inconveniencing them, interfering with their work), or else he's usurping their powers for his own petty and selfish ends. but in any pantheon that includes a Trickster, these acts are necessary, to keep the other gods from taking themselves too seriously. (that's another one of Yahweh's major character flaws - along with paranoia and OCD - he takes himself far too seriously.)

Kitsunekitsunegeek on July 10th, 2007 11:26 pm (UTC)
Hmm, well, as stated above; by the dictionary, yes.

Personally, one person's blasphemy is another person's catchy tune. I can't say I have any hymns to Satan in my songbook; but doesn't everyone know at least a couple verses of Old Time Religion? And I've sung Kali Loves The Little Children on stage in coffee shops.

And I just lost my train of thought because someone asked me a question about dinner... *shrugs* maybe it will come back to me...
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 10th, 2007 11:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've done a verse or two of "Cthulhu Loves the Little Children" now and then, or "Hastur Loves Me, This I Know (the Nec-ro-nomi-con Tells Me So)." I was doing that when I still self-identified as "Christian."

When I first asked the question, I was thinking of more contemporary gospel music, something you'd find labeled "Christian contemporary," for instance, than I was of old standards from hymnals. Still, either field is ripe for the sowing, eh?

There are two things you can get with idle hands: mischief, or hairy palms and blindness. Blasphemy uses up less Kleenex.
Ace Lightning: music01acelightning on July 11th, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
well, if you want contemporary-sounding music with "Satanic" lyrics, there's plenty of heavy metal that fits the description ;-D
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 11th, 2007 12:47 am (UTC)
No, hon. I didn't say contemporary Christian music. I said "Christian contemporary."
Ace Lightning: toiletacelightning on July 11th, 2007 01:21 am (UTC)

(on the scale from "i'd rather rupture my eardrums with chopsticks" to "i'd crawl on my hands and knees across five miles of broken glass to listen to it", i rank "Christian contemporary" just between elevator music and rap.)

Kitsunekitsunegeek on July 11th, 2007 02:56 am (UTC)
Oh dear Gods... I went to high school with someone who listened to Petra. He was a preacher's son. Spent all his time trying to loan me Petra tapes and read me interesting bible verses. That guy really made me think the song Son Of A Preacher Man was some serious false advertising...
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 11th, 2007 03:02 am (UTC)
Yep, I listened to Petra when I was young. Then again, I listened to everything that sounded even vaguely like rock. I also had a cross up my butt; I got my grounding in self-righteous, smug superiority growing up among the Southern Baptists.
Sorciasorcia on July 11th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)
Might I suggest Shout to the North as a good place to start? At my biological father's second wedding they played it...it was the only song that I sang along to (after strategically changing lyrics)...
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 11th, 2007 03:03 am (UTC)
Hmm. Maybe. I'll look into it tomorrow.
nata5 on July 11th, 2007 07:45 am (UTC)
Wow.. just messing around and boom.. Onward, Christian Soldiers became Onward, Satanic Soldiers. 10 minutes work .. wow.. kinda amusing.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on July 11th, 2007 11:53 am (UTC)
I like it. Direct and to the point. :)
L A: Down and Seriouslouisadkins on July 11th, 2007 05:41 pm (UTC)
Thank you. Now I have XMas songs filking towards ebil in my skull.

A rough draft example:

Filked from:
Santa Claus Is Coming To Town
J. Fred Coots, Henry Gillespie (c) 1934

You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not breathe
I'm telling you why
Luc-I-Fer is coming to town

He's making a list,
And checking it twice;
Gonna find out Who's naughty and nice.
Luc-I-Fer is coming to town

He sees you when you're sinning
He knows when your word breaks
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be bad for Evil's sake!

O! You better watch out!
You better not cry.
Better not breathe, I'm telling you why.
Luc-I-Fer is coming to town.
Luc-I-Fer is coming to town.