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27 April 2007 @ 01:20 pm
A quick summary of my thoughts on FITB  
It has come to my attention that perhaps people are unaware of what I believe about certain hot-button subjects. Without going into a lot of detail on any particular one, I thought I'd provide an outline, a quick summary if you will, as a guideline of my positions on the talking points of the day.

Trav feels the following way on the following subjects:

Abortion: should be freely available to anyone who wants or needs one at any time for any reason. If you don't want an abortion, don't have one. You have no right to tell someone else what to do with her body, ever.
Gun control: the only consideration of "control" I care about is accuracy. Making ownership of firearms illegal will only increase the black market on firearms and will keep weapons out of the hands of otherwise law-abiding citizens who want to protect themselves. People who want to kill other human beings are not going to be stopped by the thought that purchasing a gun would be illegal or by a potential fine. Yes, we should be able to count on law enforcement officers to keep the peace. However, I'd personally rather be alive to discuss why I had to kill my attacker than have the forensics squad figure the events out from the scene of my death.
Birth control: freely available to anyone who wants or needs it at any time for any reason. Not necessarily free in terms of price, though that has its place and if an organization wants to hand out free condoms, more power to them. Free as in "not otherwise restricted."
Sex education: teach it early, teach it often, teach it honestly and for pity's sake scientifically. If your religion doesn't like sex, take it up in Sunday school. Public schools are there to serve public interests, that is the interest of the society. Forewarned is forearmed.
The paternity of various celebrity orphans: it's not my kid, so I don't give a rat's ass. Is it potentially your kid? Then why the fuck do you care?
Violent video games: blaming violent video games for violent behavior among children is like blaming the Bible for Pat Robertson. It's media, people. What an individual chooses to do with it is no reflection on the media as a whole.
Capital punishment: you cannot reason with a rabid dog. You don't put a dangerous animal in a cage to let it expire in time. You kill the animal and respectfully dispose of the corpse. A sexual predator, a homicidal maniac, a sociopath, whatever it is you've got there cannot be cured. Without a cure, you have merely a rabid animal who WILL attack again.
Gay marriage: easy to fix. Either everyone can get married or no one can. Pick one of the two, because nothing else makes the slightest bit of sense. I still have not heard one rational argument, a position based on reason, for banning homosexual marriage.
Religion: Leave me alone to worship as I will, and I will grant you the same courtesy. Try to make me change, and I will do whatever it takes to stop you. To force your way on my life is to destroy my life; I am happy to respond with equal force to stop that from happening.
Parenting: not for me.
The environment: hope you like your weather on the extreme ends. It's too late to stop it. Me, I'm just fine with living underground. All we can do now is damage control, and we'd better get at it PDQ.
Pornography: if you don't like it, don't buy it.
Drugs: Legalize, tax, deal with it like rational adults. Drugs can be used responsibly. When someone is irresponsible, then we deal with it.
Age of consent: there is nothing magical about turning 18 or 21. Some people are ready for adulthood earlier than others. Until we have a rational, fair, scientifically-based way of separating the wheat from the chaff, an arbitrary line is all we can do to keep things fair.
Prostitution: Legalize, professionalize, and deal with it like rational adults. It's just sex, people. It makes no sense to make illegal the sale of that which is legal to give away for free.

If you see something I've left off the list, let me know.
bronxelf_ag001 on April 27th, 2007 06:23 pm (UTC)
I could copy this almost word for word.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 27th, 2007 06:27 pm (UTC)
(bows) I'm honored by your company, then.
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Steve McKnellydenali1 on April 27th, 2007 06:30 pm (UTC)
But we'll get cooties if the gays marry! :)
Jon Reidcrossfire on April 27th, 2007 06:44 pm (UTC)
Not only that but civilization will splode and the earth will spiral out of orbit and crash into the sun.

Seriously. I heard it on "The 700 Club."
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Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on April 27th, 2007 07:18 pm (UTC)
My thoughts
Abortion: I'd personally prefer a bit more restriction; I'd be inclined to draw the line at "freely available through the end of the second trimester; after that, only to protect the woman's health or in the case of a terminal fetal defect such as (but not limited to) anencephaly". I will admit that this is based at least as much on emotion as it is on reason.

Guns, Drugs, and Prostitution: I'd be inclined to restrict the purchase of these to legal adults. I have no problem with minors learning gun safety and how to shoot, but I don't think I want them buying guns any more than I want them buying drugs or sex.

Age of consent: I agree that until we have some rational way to test for adulthood, all we can do is draw an arbitrary line. I'd also allow for the current process that permits a minor to apply to a judge for status as a legal adult (emancipation) under extraordinary circumstances.

Age of consent as related to sexual activity: I'm all in favor of laws that decline to criminalize sexual activity between minors of approximately the same age, or between a minor and an adult of approximately the same age (e.g., 18 and 17 shouldn't be considered statutory rape).
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 27th, 2007 07:48 pm (UTC)
Re: My thoughts
Agreed in most. A couple of places there, you mentioned something I didn't bother to mention but already had in mind. Buying guns, drugs, and sex for example; when I talk about what a free person can or ought to be able to do, I'm talking about adults or people who have reached the age of consent.

I wouldn't limit minors applying for legal recognition of majority status to extraordinary circumstances. Given my druthers and the psychological knowledge of how to implement it, I'd have in place a system that would require EVERYONE to apply for majority status. If a 14 year old could pass the majority testing, then that 14 year old could buy a gun, smoke some weed, and have sex with any other consenting adult he or she likes. (shrug) On the other hand, if a 25 year old can't manage to act like an adult and show enough reason to pass the course, why allow him or her to fuck with other peoples' lives in those ways?
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Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 27th, 2007 07:49 pm (UTC)
Well, the thought processes behind most of that aren't spelled out here, really. What explanations I included are briefs rather than the entirety of the reasoning. Thank you, though.
la contessina del bosco di monte ciraulofishberryjam on April 27th, 2007 08:10 pm (UTC)
I don't know why but I always imagined your leanings were more 'conservative' than mine ... but, nope! we stand pretty squarely the same all the way around

the one thing I would add personally re: gun control

When I was in h.s. I caught a ride home with a subsitute teacher and in the conversation we were having she said 'never forget a car is a loaded gun and you could kill someone with it' (maybe one reason I never learned to drive ;)

anyway ... since that time I've worked it out in my head that if we require people to take drivers tests both written and practical, and also not have extensive duis etc. in order for them to carry a driver's license why can't we do something similar regarding guns?

Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 27th, 2007 08:46 pm (UTC)
I would agree on gun licensing exams. Cars are essentially slightly guided missiles and can do a LOT of damage. Guns can kill just as easily as a car hit can, but we require less overall licensing and testing prior to allowing someone to purchase one.
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Skyepagawne on April 28th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
You have just handed all of us the perfect weapon to absolutely ruin you. We could make you run for public office. Granted you would never win, you make too much sense. A couple of things I don't quite agree on, but so what.

Have a good evening. :}

We could make you King. Yeah, that's it. King.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 12:49 am (UTC)
No kings in America, something that our dear pResident seems to forget. He seems to think himself King George V. Still, that wouldn't stop me working to open a new nation somewhere in the world... muahaha.

I'd not do well in an elected position. I'd never get it; after all, I hate the masses only slightly less than I hate the politicians.
L Alouisadkins on April 28th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
.. sounds familiar, heh
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)
Well, not the first time you've heard it. :)
Sorciasorcia on April 28th, 2007 02:15 am (UTC)
As per usual, I agree with your general opinions. There was only one item that gave me any pause at all. I'll save you from the diatribe I could write associated to it, but I'll at least point it out to you.

"Parenting: not for me."
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC)
(hugs) Honey, how much parenting have I had to do? By the time we met, you were a freshman in college.
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Disgruntled English Major: Phyllishachiemachie on April 28th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)
Why, this is the most reasonable thing I've read all day. Props!
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 02:51 am (UTC)
Well aren't you sweet? :)
The Bunnerflysylvidoptera on April 28th, 2007 02:28 am (UTC)
Yup. We think alike. :D
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 02:51 am (UTC)
I'll consider that a compliment.
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Noah Singman: NSS on New Year's Evensingman on April 28th, 2007 02:31 am (UTC)
Not bad, but I don't like the taxing bits. I tend to follow Lysander Spooner's clear and simple notion that a vice is harming myself or my own property, and a crime is harming someone else or someone else's property. My sole rule is "Do no harm to others." Vice is your own concern.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 02:56 am (UTC)
(grin) Color me surprised you'd disagree with the taxation part. I agree in terms of criminal prosecution regarding the nature of vice, but I disagree with libertarianism in general and Libertarianism in specific as regards to taxation and the needful services of government. My experience of the majority of people is that they are not ready or able to live without government authority. There are plenty of us who ARE capable of living without societal intervention on any kind of frequent basis, but there are enough out there who aren't that civilization would break down without a hierarchical authority system in place to regulate things. I definitely do NOT trust private industry or the free market to regulate themselves in the best interests of the people, so again, I see no alternative but to have a governing body overseeing things. That of course costs resources to support, and the simplest method without nationalizing industry is to tax things people want. I don't agree with taxing things people need like basic foodstuffs or housing, so the revenue has to come from somewhere.
Ace Lightning: brainacelightning on April 28th, 2007 05:21 am (UTC)
as i know you know, i agree with you on just about everything, except more so ;-)

the only quibble i've got concerns gun control. until guns lose their mystique, it's going to be damned near impossible to teach the average person how to behave rationally and responsibly in their presence. but most people today react to guns in one of two ways; either "ohmygodhe'sgotaguni'mgonnaDIIIIIE!" (followed by soiling themselves and/or fainting), or else "muthafucka, i've got an invincible steel penis that means i can do ANYTHING I WANT, and you can't stop me!" neither of these attitudes is conducive to reasonable behavior.

btw, your entire list can be summed up pretty well by the Rede ;-D

Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 28th, 2007 05:42 am (UTC)
That's part of gun licensing. You'd have to take a course that teaches you proper gun handling, including a bare minimum accuracy before you pass.
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Katkatmoonshaker on April 30th, 2007 12:59 pm (UTC)
My favorite has always been the "test for majority"... I would so like that to be instituted. ::grin:: And have that be the first license someone would have to obtain before all others.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on April 30th, 2007 01:57 pm (UTC)
First license, likely I'd require it before all but a driver's license.