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01 September 2006 @ 07:21 pm
Please sir, spare a poor, cold n00b a Gigabyte or two?  
Hmm. Well, that was interesting.

I've got my old computer, the one I replaced with this shiny new homebuilt one, the old box with old drives and old old old written all over it.

I decided hey, I'm bored and have a spare box. I'll install Fedora Core Linux on it and play around, use it like a crash box, test things without actually fucking up a live Linux box at work.

Here I sit, merrily watching FC5 installing. It asks for install disc 2, which I give it and turn back around to wait for that to finish. Before I can turn around, however, it throws me an interesting error. "Not enough free space. Exiting install."

Hmm. Okay. I chalk this up to having improperly allocated partitions in the pre-install phase. I figured I'd just restart the install process and do it differently this time, pay more careful attention to the install guide sheet I've got on one of the other boxen.

Perhaps you've heard a "clunk" from your computer in the past, as it attempts to access a hard drive. For those who have never experienced this, let me try to explain. "Clunk" is the sound of a hard drive refusing to spin. "Clunk" is the sound of a dead drive, so far as my talents are concerned. Needless to say, "clunk" is a bad sound, and tends to be followed by the computer user making a similar sound. "Fuck."

For the technically inclined and interested, what I've got in there for hard drives are a 4GB Maxtor as /dev/hda and an 80GB Maxtor as /dev/hdb. Bootstrapping shows /dev/hda responding normally; there are reported seek errors when attempting to access /dev/hdb, however, exiting with an opcode of "unknown." The BIOS identifies the drive correctly. When the install and/or rescue programs are seeking it, however, I hear said distinct "clunk" and get basically a locked-up computer as Fedora tries in vain to get around the fact that /dev/hdb is giving it the silent treatment.

Now, Fedora Core generally takes up about 10GB of space, and that's before you allocate any space for user directories. As you can see, I've only got a 4GB drive to spare. Here's where the request comes in: Should anyone out there have a spare IDE hard drive of 10GB or more lying around, I would be thrilled to put it to good use. Now, this is a crash box. It is a spare time project. It is not worth spending actual money on, is what I'm saying. If you have a drive that is sitting there doing absolutely nothing, I'd thank you kindly for the having of it. If your drive could still be of use to you, thank you anyway. Definitely do not offer me a new drive for this thing. It's not worth it. (David, I am looking specifically at you when I say that, you read me?)

So, yeah.
 
 
Current Mood: annoyed at that drive
 
 
 
Ace Lightning: at computeracelightning on September 2nd, 2006 03:12 am (UTC)
there ought to be a semi-regular "computer expo" or "computer fair and sale" thing somewhere in the Dallas area - there's one every other month in central NJ. there's usually a swap meet of some sort included in the festivities... or, at the very least, you could pick up an obsolete 8-GB drive for a ridiculously cheap price. of course, having someone give you a drive they don't need any more would be even better... i suppose it'll depend on which happens first...
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on September 2nd, 2006 03:43 am (UTC)
Exactly. If I don't hear from anyone saying, "Hey, it so happens I do have a drive that is looking for a home," I'll wander by First Friday or something.
Ace Lightning: at computeracelightning on September 2nd, 2006 03:55 am (UTC)
well, i might have one in a couple of months... but that's not going to do you any good now. (this computer, a Pentium II 300 mHz with 4 MB of video RAM, will no longer play most kinds of video media, and it's getting to the point where i can't even upgrade software, because the hardware won't support it. Ray is now making noises about new computers for both of us; since we don't need printers, monitors, or any other peripherals, replacing just the boxes isn't going to be too expensive. but that will mean that there'll be some spare parts lying around when we're done.) (and meanwhile, i've been repairing Alex's laptop - a job for mechanically inclined pixies with millimeter-scale waldoes. i just need to figure out how to put everything back together again now...)
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on September 2nd, 2006 12:25 pm (UTC)
Well, I'll get something before then, but thank you. :)
E. Steev Ramsdelltranscendant on September 2nd, 2006 12:39 pm (UTC)
I think I might actually have one in an old Gateway. It's been a while since I've done anything with it though, so I don't know what size it is. I'll check it out when I get the chance and let you know (it'll probably be later this weekend).
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on September 2nd, 2006 12:47 pm (UTC)
Cool, thanks. If it would fit the needs, let me know how much shipping on it would be.
nata5 on September 2nd, 2006 05:49 pm (UTC)
Fedora Core generally takes up about 10GB of space

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
64G 1.4G 60G 3% /
/dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot
tmpfs 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
[root@cb6 ~]#

What crack are you smoking thinking it takes up 10g? Are you doing the everything install? B/c installing all the source is pretty pointless on a crash box.
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on September 3rd, 2006 12:31 am (UTC)
Well, I was going to install a fair mix of things, give myself a chance to test drive a number of features. Hells, man, I gotta learn how to make the thing play nice before I can try breaking and fixing things.
Gordon Schumacher: computereleccham on September 4th, 2006 04:04 am (UTC)
Um... yes, yes I do.

Lemme make sure I have your address.

And wait, lemme guess: the dead drive has a yellow bar on the end of the label on the front, the one with the serial number... and the serial number begins with a "Y".
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on September 4th, 2006 02:50 pm (UTC)
Couldn't tell you, as I chucked it into the garbage last night. I take it there have been problems with that series of drives?

As nata5 pointed out, a Linux install really doesn't require that much space, if you aren't installing everything it can do. I have it installed now as a standard CLI and X Window only install, leaving out the office, software development, and Web server packages as well as the Desktop environment stuff. It seems to have fit nicely, and I'll be splitting my time between that and other things this week.

I'll happily take the drive; just saying that it isn't necessary. I'll send you an email with our current address. The only email I have for you is the LJ redirector, though. Hope that's pointing to a current address. :)
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on September 4th, 2006 03:02 pm (UTC)
As an update, I fished the drive out of the garbage can and had a look. The SN for this drive does not being with a Y, and does not have any yellow bars on any of its labels.

What would that have meant?